Coddy Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) Just a reminder folks This Thursday 21st Jan the Angling Trust Meeting being held at Parkstone Trades & Labour Club Ashley Road. Start time 8pm Mark Lloyd from the AT will be there to talk about what the AT can do with the anglers support Dave Edited January 15, 2010 by Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 see you guys tomorrow? PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I'll be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nash Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 am out of the area tomorrow but if i can get back in time i will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Just a reminder this is an open meeting so none club members are also welcome to attend Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 me and Bob too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Dave, Steve, & Jim will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffa Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Apologies guys I will not be able to make it tonight. Just For the record If an Angling Trust Membership headcount is to be taken at the meeting I am an existing individual Angling Trust Member. Peteg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zzippy Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Myself,Ben and Paul will be there....and maybe Steve too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirky Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I will be there with Alan ........I left a thread about this on Christchurch AC forum yesterday and it has had a few hits so maybe a few non members will be there too. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 ........I left a thread about this on Christchurch AC forum yesterday Dave you jumping ship Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirky Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Martin. Not at all......been a member of CAC for years and still enjoy my coarse fishing........just thought it would be of interest to CAC members too... See you l8r.....I will bring your bottle prize to the meet Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Well I guess people will start posting their thoughts on the AT meeting so here are mine. My intention is to be constructive, they are not perfect and some honest appraisals might help them. AT are not a charity so they must be a business, they may well not try to make a profit but hey can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I've just posted my membership. As you say, there's no one else fighting our corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petesnr Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 The game of knocking someone who was prepared to stand up in front of strangers is business as usual for anglers. In the end it isnt a question of what one man can do for us but what we can do by being united and having a voice at the table. No amount of discourse on a forum will have any infuence over fisheries policy whereas this guy has already made representations on our behalf at European level over Article 47 and is in discourse with Defra over angling issues. I doubt there are any of us would like to be in his position and considering that the whole world revolves around money I thought he was quite restrained over the issue. His point as far as I recall was that the Angling Trust needed to show government agencies that they represented a large number of anglers and the only way for this to happen was to have more membership. To sit and wait for some miraculous heaven for anglers and then jump on board is cynical in the extreme and is likely to lead to us being left with the crumbs when it comes to getting any improvements in our sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirky Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Huge respect Peter ......but I don't think Zed was having a go at anyone.... just voicing some concerns about the bottomless pit that some of these "agencies " become without actually achieving benefit for the majority..... I am not saying that this is not a worthwhile cause......far from it.!!! But as the Trust grows and the issues taken up demand more staff and more sophisticated representation at legal and political level, so the need for money to sustain takes precedence over the need to be accountable to the members regarding membership costs and money making methods. I had a similar situation with the then British Field Sports Society....when it was "absorbed" into the Countryside Alliance.....along with several other trusts, societies and agencies. Membership has more than doubled from the original and very stable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think if someone won't join for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) I must say that I was impressed that Mark had travelled so far to address last nights meeting. I had also hoped to hear a little more about stratagy for the AT's future campaigns, but was impressed that he seemed totally clued in and able to answer such a variety of off the cuff questions. If we had more time I would have delved more in to why Tackle shops could be offered a per person discount, but Clubs could not. I am sure if AT offered our club Edited January 22, 2010 by great white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Maybe the AT should be run more like a business - the main aim to make money, helping anglers as a second.... not because we take 2nd place, but because what I took from last night is that they need money in order to fight. If they had a commission based salesman whose job it was to sell membership, it wouldnt cost the AT any wages and surely it would be an easy sell? I was in the dark until last night, but Mark cant visit all anglers in the UK. I've now joined - and watch in anticipation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Maybe the AT should be run more like a business - the main aim to make money, helping anglers as a second.... not because we take 2nd place, but because what I took from last night is that they need money in order to fight. If they had a commission based salesman whose job it was to sell membership, it wouldnt cost the AT any wages and surely it would be an easy sell? I was in the dark until last night, but Mark cant visit all anglers in the UK. I've now joined - and watch in anticipation. It's a shame, but I kind of agree. The comment about the mail out to the tackle shops getting no takers was a prime example of where a rep knocking on the door and actually talking to the owner would have got a massively bigger response. In fact, the rep only needs to visit one or two shops in each town and get their buy in. Others will soon follow when they realise the easy profit margin AND the fact they are doing the sport some good. Then the same with the clubs (I can't see why the same deal couldn't be offered to the clubs either). A commission based rep visiting the clubs and doing exactly what Mark himself did last night, but including a presentation on what the AT will do for anglers and how the membership money will be sent. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Maybe I'll offer my services! 2 Million sea anglers at a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Very good points made by all of you. I'm happy to throw 20 quid per year into the pot if someone is going to try to improve our fish stocks. Maybe even I could catch something. I'll join Today! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Interesting meeting by the looks of it. Sorry I was unable to make it as we up in Aberdeen working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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