mike02380 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 has anyone got any comments about the boat? I went on one at the southampton boatshow and quite liked it, went well with a 90hp although I am considering plonking a 115 e tec on one, build quality looked good (built in the uk) had a single bunk for dossing overnight built in livebait wells internal fuel tank good standard spec seemed a good ride through the chop towable without a 4*4 self draining decks http://www.pirate-boats.com/show/english/p...e_18_cuddy.aspx but quite expensive! cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Cracking boat!! Nearly bought one with the 120 mercruiser inboard, but ended up with an older Mi 21. She'll still fly with the 90.. .... bit more fuel and stabilisers needed for the 115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I would be keen to know what the weight with trailer was if not using a 4x4. It is all well and good towing 2000kg with a car (such as caraven) until you need to pull it up a slimey \ wet slipway or manouver it over soft-ish ground. Or a nice bit of ice when off cod fishing! (Winter before last Mudeford slip was a sheet of ice, after a club member had lauched 20mins before me, the water had frozen and launching had to be by hand, I would not have fancied my chances of retreiving without a 4x4 and a rope, luckily it had defrosted by the time we came in). recommended towing weights is 85% of towing vehicle weight - doesn't have to be so but most cars will not (legally) tow much more than their own weight. You need a low ratio gearbox to get that figure up much more. p.s. lovely looking boat - go for the open one if it were me!!! HTH Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike02380 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) Rob, The hull weighs 650kg so all up weight won't be too heavy, say 1150kg plus whatever crap I throw in the boat! I alway launch at Lymo so its a nice slip! wedger - they do sell them as a package with a 115 honda, Edited September 28, 2010 by mike02380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I was on a 21 last night - cracking boat PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hi Mike I too looked at the Pirate 18 at the show and was well impressed with it. They had built in some nice touches. Price with 75hp Honda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike02380 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 cheers dave, I did look at the other 2 but the pirate impressed me much more! Although it is expensive it seemed to come with more bits and bobs as standard than other makes. any more pros and cons you can remember about the pirate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Hi Mike, The weight is the same as my Warrior 165 ( 650 kg ) As for the open version, It gets very cold in an open boat. I'd go for the Cuddy. You've been on the Grinch, so you have a feel for comparrison. Good luck. Jim Ps. I've been very pleased with my 75 E-Tec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Mike, The Pirate hull profile and weight is similar to my Raider 18 which I've owned for 6 years. I soon realized after purchasing it that my Vectra was not a suitable tow vehicle and had to change to a 4 x 4 (unless you don't mind the smell of burning clutch and tyres). I also upgraded from a 75hp to 115hp last year which tranformed it from a good boat to a great one. The Pirate 18 looks really good, so if you can, go for the 115 on it and be prepared to change your car. Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Mike Stop messing around and get one on order I want to come and play !!!! Nice looking boat, I missed it at the show even though i went twice although second time we took clients for a day out most of the day was spent in the bars, good day all the same. Definately go for the cuddy if nothing else its a dry place to store kit and keeps the wind off. Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Lads, For what its worth I can tow my Pirate 21 with a 4x4, no trouble...... Build quality..... Very Good..not brilliant ... as the yard seems to change each boat that comes out of the mould to suit the last purchasers comments...... As for sea keeping qualities....ask the lads that were onboard going through the Swinge. with me.....In Alderney... The 18 is a great boat, as I have taken it out in Wales in very rough conditions. Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Looks a good boat I would also go for the Cuddy version, It actually looks very simular to how my Wilson Flyer finished up. I took the bulkhead off and made the cabin into a Cuddy. The changes lightened the boat and upped the performance, but better than that was the ability to sit back and dodge the cold wind and rain while fishing. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Cuddy, cabin, shelter - what's wrong with you all? A small folding cuddy is light, keeps off the wind and allows fishing access all round when down. Mind you - I do have a sore throat and sunday was cold! OK - maybe it is a good idea, that's why I have friends with boats with cabins - for winter time!!! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike02380 Posted September 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I will def be going for the cuddy if I choose to make a purchase! There is a little infill panel which will make a comfortable 6ft bed for one so I could overnight comfortably aswell as a canvas door which turns the cuddy into a mini cabin, think this comes as standard, there is a picture of this on the website. please some negative comments! the only negative one so far is from the mrs about the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 OK - maybe it is a good idea, that's why I have friends with boats with cabins - for winter time!!! Or August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike02380 Posted October 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 http://www.pirate-boats.com/default.aspx?p...uddy/boat_tests there is now a test on the website if anyone is interested, another for your website coddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdave Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 For a much cheaper alternative, try this :- http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/JFF249# I've got the 5M version and wouldn't change it for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Is it just Me, or is it Ugly ? It is only half the price though ! I assume there is some sort of back which slots into it ? ? ? Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nash Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 No Jim, it has a well between the engine and the deck. I went and looked at this boat before deciding on my Raider 18 and i only decided against it because it was BLOODY MASSIVE!!! It is an awful lot of boat and would easily fish 6 on that deck. You almost need to shout from the transome to the cabin door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 The John Dory boats are superb and similar if not the same as the Fisheagle of which there is one for sale on this site. IMHO both well worth a look The Pirate also looks to be a well thought out bit of kit, kinda wish I was looking for a new boat at the mo with all that choice about. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdave Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 Is it just Me, or is it Ugly ? It is only half the price though ! I assume there is some sort of back which slots into it ? ? ? Jim Self draining flush deck ! and the hull is about as fuel efficient as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdave Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 You could buy the John Dory and a 4x4 and still have some change for her indoors ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdave Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 This was the 5M John Dory http://www.seaswift.co.uk/ Would love to know where the bigger mould went ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike02380 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 You could buy the John Dory and a 4x4 and still have some change for her indoors ! I could................................... but then I might have to buy something with a diamond in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 A mine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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