duncan Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 oh - dear................. and this morning's version was sooooooooooooo much better. someone must have screwed up in some way because it's changed on all the output I looked at for Poole/Alderny/Guernsey Here's what it said this morning...(alderney) Fri 2 May 0:00 5:59 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHoy Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Can someone PM me the marks and waypoints we plan on using as a group so that I can load them into my plotter in comfort (and with less risk of mistakes). You can include the extra special secret marks as well if you want Cheers. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 I am not sure when and how we intend to get the overall plan together what do the others think. Personally and after Adam spoke with mark it sounds like the tides suit a fairly rapid trip over, with bait stops around the RIPS I also fancy looking at drifting over a couple of wrecks on rouite if we can I believe slack is around 0900 so it would need an early start. But still arriving in time to look for some launce and drift for flatties around the slacker water period in the afternoon But I am new to the Island fishing so am willing to accept advice,instruction Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 hmmm - rips are a little East of your track Charlie........... We tend to just run over watching the sounder until I see a mackerel schoal - worked last time and it took little time for AWOL and Phaeton to have enough for the 3 days (although we got more as we fished). weather will play a part in many peoples plans, as will the inevitable unexpected - mangling a pair of duo props and knocking the skeg clean of the drive in the middle of the harbour cost me 1 1/2 hours last time we crossed........ until I know the wind I won't know which banks and from that which tide and therefore time etc etc etc Running straight over to fish the banks we usually start on the SW casquettes as heading straight past Alderney to the Schole always seems depressing and will require a little planning even on Saturday's tide for the Swinge - let alone Race! Passing West of the casquettes rock is much less tide dependent. Ortac to SE casquettes is reasonably OK unless wot. weather.....whether.....weather.....whether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun j. Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Weather ???????? .........and this morning it's back to looking more pleasant again ! They must put it to bed with a pleasant outlook...........then make it look nasty when they wake up with a thick head! I'll stop looking until the middle of next week [ I wish!] .... and stop my hopes going up and down ! Charlie.... it must be worse for skippers' planning ?? Alun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alderneyangling Posted April 25, 2008 Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 From what I can make out skippers just leave it till the night before anyway and tend not to worry too much before hand. More than likely they'd be out the day before and know the sea conditions but as you say it is a pain in the butt. Sunday for instance, over here a wash out till last night and then it is on again, not that I look ahead too often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yes Alan its hard to keep off the long range forecast and hard to guess what the weekend will bring at any time Mark the lets have a look in the morning approach is OK for the odd trip but when trying to arrange 5 boats or more accross the channel a bit more communication and planning is required I am sure everyone is as keen to get a chance to visit the Alderney fishing grounds as The boys and I are. How is the cloudy water? and fishing generally, or should we ask after you get out on Sunday? Tight lines Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Do those that are going fancy meeting a bit early next Thursday to discuss this trip over a pint. Charlie I will try and get there early, what time did you have in mind Charlie Getting really excited now and can hardly wait, so much so that I am almost tempted to go now Well all the planing seems to be coming on, I have had the paper charts out with Tom and the various wrecksites/data bases Would appreciate any wreck numbers you can share although Dean and I passed over some very large lumps on our slow troll back last year, all marked on the charts and almost spot on the co-ords Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHoy Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Alderney novice question coming up, no idea on the marks/species so - should I take the uptider with me? A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Take what you got uptide down tide spinning etc mark w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Alderney novice question coming up, no idea on the marks/species so - should I take the uptider with me? A. As it's your boat you get to choose! Seriously though it depends on what you will be fishing for. Some will want to drift the wrecks for pollack and cod Then there's anchoring the wrecks for conger Drifting with bait for ling. All the above is a matter of personal taste as to what you use from dedicated gear for each to a long soft 30lb class for all three Then there is drifting the banks for flats or bass - you will be drifting between 15 and 150 ft of depth. Using my own boat I like to fish light and enjoy any fish I hook to the full. On a charter boat this is a little selfish as everyone else is waiting on you to land the thing so the boat can go round again.... To me it's feel, feel and feel both before and after hooking up. Also as you are holdin the rod all day lightness helps! In my case it's a St Croix med/stiff action 6-10lb class (about 1oz) with a 400s calcutta and 14lb braid. 3 oz weight. Overall any 12 - 15lb class rod with a light multiplyer and braid will do the trick. It's worth having a long rod to fish for the launce - uptider is perfect. use at least 8oz and preferably 12 on the feathers or you will get the whole lot tangled on the first fish! having said all the above PaulJ's tuna pole does the job pretty well too!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hi Martin I can not get to the meeting before 1900 Its my birthday and I do not want to P wendy off Ref the numbers, is everyone happy to share a few on Thursday I have not been before so mine are word of mouth etc. Duncan/Martin where have you stopped for bait and to break u the journey on previous trips, Martin do you know what lumps you found? If you are happy to PM me the numbers I will look on my two big data bases and the web to try and get you some more details and names. Getting well excited , yesterday when we were out on flat calm seas we were tempted to head off south, not sure Wendy or Sam would have liked a call from Alderney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Charlie - I just stop when I see a mackerel schoal They show up well on the sounder - as do the individual launce (!) on the banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alderneyangling Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Sediment is clearing but fishing wasn't great although haviong not been out for four months I felt like a novice!! Shall do a quick report on my site on an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Thanks Duncan and Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Nice report Mark thanks, It will help us to make a plan for our visit It looks like my decision to make up some tope traces yesterday in the garage may have been a good one. I believe that the general cocensus is to mix up the fishing to try to maximise the variety and enjoyment Can not wait Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Here for you lazy bods! http://www.alderneyangling.com/latestreports.htm Glad Ive got a busy week at work to take my mind off it! Cummon the weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mw Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Dont rob it in mark w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 For those who havent been before below is the last factsheet I typed up for the 2005 trip. Not gospel but has a few useful tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHoy Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 As it's your boat you get to choose! Seriously though it depends on what you will be fishing for. ......... Thanks Duncan, nice little master class for me. I might even manage to put some of the suggestions into practice over the coming weekend It would be good to move up one level on the competence level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHoy Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Can anyone suggest a source of bulk ice in the Blandford or Hamworthy areas so that I can top my icebox up on the way to the boat on Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I will be looking to do the same as I don't have one of these ice makers (that everyone else has!) and will call in on Greenslades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alderneyangling Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Just looked at the tides and where you might be fishing it will be well worth bringing a 25lb to 40lb weight (depending on size of boat) to drag if you decide to do the flatfish during the run of the tide. When are you all meeting to discuss trip? Do you need me to try and point you in the right direction? I've noted you like the idea of the varied fishing so maybe I can put a plan together if Adam rings again. We can also meet for a beer Saturday night somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 more weight onboard........oh dear. I only have a 56lb one and I really don't fancy either handling it or having aboard all weekend. Can I use the the anchor on a short rode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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