blueboatdriver Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'm happy to make up the numbers at all the comps. But due to bad luck 90% of the dates fall on days when I'm working. Last year it was the other way around. Perhaps we should all send our work 'Man Plan' sheets into the commitee at the start of the season Wouldn't complicate it any more would it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 After reading all members comments with interest I had better add my thoughts on the subject I agree with what seems to be the majority, while we try to have a variety of competitions to appeal to the members not all of them appeal to all members. I have been known to stay fishing for bigger fish rather than move away from them to fish for points, especially on a nice day when the bigger fish are biting. and I have been known to move out from the bream marks during the bream competition to try for tope. while this has gained me the trophy for Eels and Tope in the past, it has been a few years since I took the species comp. If I was out on one of the competition days especially the species comps I would register prior to the event and report my catch This would be to support the Club and those Members that take it more serouisly than I do. especialy those like James who are really trying hard to do well in the BFM competition. Simon you could always volunteer to take on this job mate, the only perk I remember is to try and avoid your own working and family commitments when you work out the years competitions However leaving all the comps untill the new boat was ready seemed a bit to much to ask not many bream around in October. keep the feedback coming guys Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 (edited) The club is different things to different people keep the feedback coming guys lets hear from some of the newbies, don't let us regulars dominate with our opinions PJ Edited June 27, 2006 by Paul J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Simon you could always volunteer to take on this job mate, the only perk I remember is to try and avoid your own working and family commitments when you work out the years competitions Charlie Thanks for the offer Charlie but you're doing a grand job I'll just take my chances with next year's draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swainiac Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 One thought on this comp subject, is to combine points for species, but give bonus points for, say, 75 ish % speciman weight. Do I get extra for my wrasse Charlie?? Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 typical bloody badger.........as if you need help! I think Martin has it spot on - a balance of comps through the year (which is pretty much what we do have already). I think some of the poor weather early on caused problems, then the really good weekends............... Realistically the species basis is much the best for true competition and reflects the club better in qualifiers etc. Possibly the bream and ray next in the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swainiac Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Another thing that may influence Club Comps and Catches, is to consider a distance from Poole radius. If we have easterly and westerly boundaries, why not have a southerly boundary too? Tis will put the cat amongst the pigeons!!!! This way, the small boats who can't fish more southerly lattitudes have equal chance. Answers on a postcard please. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Is there a precedent that the bigger boats generally win these competitions? I think I like Martins idea so everyone gets something, sometime. Terry B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Hi Guys keep the input coming. Terry it is in fact the smaller boats and their crews that tend to fare better in the series of species chase competitions. Their speed to move about and ability to get in shallows chasing mullet etc give them an edge and maybe the bigger boats are tempted out to distant marks and therefore commit to a less versitile approach to bait and tactics. Some of the bigger boats fare better in the best specimen type competitions, as my old boat did. I Think by the fact that weather does not have such an effect on plans. Last years Open several of the bigger boats stuck with plans to go a few miles when a lot of others stayed inshore due to the weather forcast. That said i think Adam and James went further than we did by a lot of miles. If we changed the Club area's it would affect more than just the competions, what about records, fish of the month, annual species trophies etc Do other people think changes would make a differance to how many Members fish our competitions? If so what changes. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swainiac Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I know of other clubs who have a southerly boundary, which greatly influences club records for certain species, like Turbot and Brill, also for our cod comp etc, it would give all boats an equal stab at getting to specific Cod grounds...........not that I catch any of those chaps anyway!!!!!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Personally I fish for the fun of it and if I am able, may fish a competition as it co-incides with a day I am out anyway. For me, species comps don't do it. I prefer to target specimens and aim for a bigger average rather than lots of little ones. Also, when we are in club waters fair enough, but a lot of my fishing takes place outside them, however I always let you know if I am West of the Bill. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Another thing that may influence Club Comps and Catches, is to consider a distance from Poole radius. If we have easterly and westerly boundaries, why not have a southerly boundary too? Tis will put the cat amongst the pigeons!!!! This way, the small boats who can't fish more southerly lattitudes have equal chance. Answers on a postcard please. Rich I did actually mention this before and got slightly jumped on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Another thing that may influence Club Comps and Catches, is to consider a distance from Poole radius. If we have easterly and westerly boundaries, why not have a southerly boundary too? Tis will put the cat amongst the pigeons!!!! This way, the small boats who can't fish more southerly lattitudes have equal chance. Answers on a postcard please. Rich I did actually mention this before and got slightly jumped on Luck you, you gotta jumped on....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fox Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Southerly limit and clarification of the rules would be good! We are hoping to be travelling from Cherbourg to Guernsey the day of the next species comp, and may well get a chance to catch mullet at Cherbourg, target pollack off Cap de la Hague, spin for bass in the Alderney Race (where we saw an Ocean Sunfish last year), and maybe have a quick drift over a certain bank for turbot and brill. As I read the rules, there is no requirement to either depart from or return to a UK mainland port when in a comp, and we will be in club waters, as currently defined. We can't do day trips blasting offshore like some faster boats, and this is our once a year chance to fish more distant club waters. If we're permitted, we might like to fish this one, and try to find some way of registering catches whilst out. Guidance and clarity would be welcome, cos on the following species comp, we might be leaving either Alderney or Cherbourg to return to Poole, and again have a (slim) chance to compete. Is it also safe to say that if people can fish for a few days in Alderney, will we be eligible to catch club record fish, say in St Malo, or on the inhospitable (and virtually unfished) Isles Chaucey ? Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Mike, Club waters are St Catherines point to Portland Bill, and any water due south of these, so restrition on distance - its a good fair ruling I think and includes a lifetime of superb fishing water. Good luck on the other side. PS - must be a drag drifting a wreck, having to tack back around at the end of each drift!! (tounge firmly in cheek!) Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Guidance and clarity would be welcome, cos on the following species comp, we might be leaving either Alderney or Cherbourg to return to Poole, and again have a (slim) chance to compete. Mike, i don't think anything will be changed until the next AGM anyway- so go for it PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) As Adam and Paul have said - good luck! Quite franlkly the specimin limits in the CIs are actually lower than the Wessex ones in nearly every case; mullet in Poole Harbour are as big as anywhere, the general runof bass are relatively huge, turbot on the shambles are biiger than the CIs all the time etc etc etc We have a clearly defined southerly limit; and well written rules - I find it amazing that it's even a matter for discussion but what the hell Edited June 28, 2006 by duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy fred Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 So what about the northerly limit stop you fishing up the rivers ?? as us big boats cant get up there .If you change the boundries all the club records would have to be scrubbed and started afresh then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Some of the bigger boats fare better in the best specimen type competitions, as my old boat did. But there again there was no need for a bigger boat to win the 48 hour competition Initially, I used to think it was not fair having such a distant southerly limit, however, as I managed to prove , you don't need to head off to distant shores to catch a specimen, so I think it is quite fair now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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