charlieannear Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi All Are any of you chaps experienced with the above? I'm not bad with a spanner, but I was brought up on petrol rather than oil burners. My Pajero seems to think that seeing as it generally travels the highways and byways at a snail's pace then it needs to leave a slippery trail behind it. I think I need to have a go at sorting it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I guess that's a no then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Tell me more Charlie................... I've done a bit on Landrovers and have a few basics but nothing fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Basically the Paj p155es oil out when it's used! When the vehicle is run, oil is escaping from the engine. When I stop, the escaped oil runs down and drips off the underside, so anywhere I park gets a good covering! It's not dripping constantly (i.e. when engine off), just when engine is running. I guess I need to clean the engine so I can run it and see where the oil is coming from, then if feasible sort it out. Rocker cover is prime suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Charlie, I know Nick's brother had a similar prob with his Scubby - it was the oil seal on the end of the crankshaft - I think it only leaked when running. I also had a similar issue on the old Golf . But with the water pump - the thing lost water when being driven but was OK when parked - I though it could have been the head gasket as no water was ever left on the drive. But in the end I lifted the bonnet with the engine running - when it got hot it sprayed water from the bearing in the pump, but as soon as the pump stopped with the engine it would not leak. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) If the oil is coming from the top of the engine (you should be able to see the trail) then the rocker cover is a very good place to start. Easily fixed with a new gasket and some gasket seal. Make sure you get all the cruddage out of the grooves the gasket will fit into; cleanliness is next the godliness with engines. If it is dripping from the underneath with no obvious trail coming from above, check under the gearbox. It could very likely be the main bearing oil seal (where the crankshaft comes through to the block and into the gearbox. There is usually a drain hole in the front, underside of the gearbox housing for this to drain out. Again this is not a difficult repair as the ring oil seal is a strong push fit; the only slight problem is getting the old one out but not insurmountable as it doesn't matter if you damage it. Failing that, you need to determine the variety of oill; engine, geabox, power steering, etc. Usually, with the rocker cover, the top of the engine is covered in a black film of oil where it is blown around and it will usually continue to run downwards when the vehicle is parked and leave drips on the drive overnight. This will happen with the main bearing oil seal in a small way but the bulk is ditched whilst driving through the drain hole. Best of luck and more details if none of the above. As you know, I'm not down too often but if you get stuck, I'll look in when I am. Terry. p.s. Sorry, I didn't spot this post earlier. Edited July 28, 2008 by plaicemat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britboard Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Charlie before you go pulling your engine to pieces, check your crankcase breather is ok it common for them to gum up and the engine will then force oil out of the crank seals. Simon L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks for the pointers guys. My plan is to clean the engine and surrounding 'oil collection points' and then start from the top of the engine and work down. Rocker cover and breathers will get looked at, ta. The engine oil level doesn't drop very quickly, and other levels don't seem to change at all. The diesel level drops pretty quickly though! Joking aside, I was owndering if perhaps I might have a small fuel leak (as well as oil leak) which is thinning the oil and making it 'go further'? The other problem I have is currently I'd have to do this owrk on the road... unles my front garden parking space is finished soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 The other problem I have is currently I'd have to do this work on the road... unles my front garden parking space is finished soon! We've all been there, done that. It's not an excuse for not doing it. If you have a fuel leak, check all the unions where it joins things like filters, etc., and if nothing there, it will probably be at the injectors or the common rail. If oil and you're not losing much, refer to the previous comments. Remember always, a little oil goes a bloody long way! You are correct, though, that a good clean up will make things much more obvious. A good brush up with Gunk (other engine cleaners are available) and a blast off with a pressure washer will soon reveal the culprit. BTW, if you're doing it on the road, park upstream of a drain. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Charlie The Pajaro rocker gasket is not one seal There are 2 half moon gaskets as well, if I recall it is not uncommon for these to move/fail Worth going onto the Shogun/Pajaro forums for advice. If yours is a 2.5ltr motor I have new fuel and engine filter plus timing belt sitting in the garage. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Yep, mine's a H reg, 2.5 SWB, so those parts would be most welcome! I'm a member of the Pajero Owners club and have got a lot of gen from their forum (don't tell Paul D that I go on another forum!) including step by step instructions for the Rocker cover gasket and half moon seals. This was done just before I bought the Paj but I don't think it was done very well. There is definitely some oil coming from here but I don't think it's the only source. I need to clean the engine and then with engine running do the check under the bonnet test. I'll probably come up looking like a coal miner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Yep, mine's a H reg, 2.5 SWB, so those parts would be most welcome! Ok Charlie Was going to put them on Ebay but will bring them to the next meeting if you wish. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well, it's been a while since I first started this thread, but the Paj still trails oil behind it! So I still need to find out where it's coming from. I have done rocker cover and don't think it's crank seals... got a few more suspects though. And a few more jobs to do on it too! Got quite a few new members since I first raised this, so by any chance is anyone really familiar with Pajeros and/or has a workshop where it doesn't matter too much if oil drips on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Hi Charlie I have a Haynes manual if you are interested seeing as I sold Shogun 2+yrs ago Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Check the bottom of your gearbox bell housing, Charlie. It may be your main bearing seal at the back of the engine inside the bell housing. I've had a couple of these go. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Did you clean the engine yet to see where leak is starting from......this will be a horrible job but will take a lot of guess work out of it Would it be worthwhile getting it steam cleaned to help you, may pay dividends in the end. Good luck Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Did you clean the engine yet to see where leak is starting from......this will be a horrible job but will take a lot of guess work out of it Would it be worthwhile getting it steam cleaned to help you, may pay dividends in the end. Good luck Gary Have 'cleaned' it by hand, but not steam cleaned it. Fewer places do proper steam cleaning these days due to all the regulations- H&S and collection of the run-off. Do you know of anywhere (cheap!) that does proper steam cleaning? A few places that I've asked have said they can do it, but when pushed they were actually going to use a pressure washer- not the same thing at all... I even thought about getting a steam cleaner from Screwfix and doing it myself (a similar price I suspect) but still got the problem of where to do it where the grot dropping off won't cause a big clean up job in itself. Dave- got a few different manuals thanks, including a Haynes one. Terry- oil is dripping off the bell hosing but when wiped off it's actually coming from up in the engine bay, and eventually running down hill to drip off the bell housing. Been looking at the forums and got a few more suspects for the source, but kinda on the scrounge for pair of experienced eyes and or somewhere dry to do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Charlie, you can hire steamer from Brandon hire it's only a small one but better than pressure washer!! should be able to hire a better one somewhere else afraid i cant help you with workshop or clean off area Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagypsy Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hey charlie , give Steve King a call at Specialized Vehicle Services 01202 821222, they mainly do pajero's and shoguns, they dont charge the earth either, I am sure he would have it in to see where the leak is coming from, and quote you to repair it , they have loads of old pajero spares too so if something needs replacing you might not need new parts. . At least you will know its done right too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 ...give Steve King a call at Specialized Vehicle Services 01202 821222... Thanks, will do. Where is he based? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirky Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Charlie I have sent you a PM Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagypsy Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 SVS , Woolsbridge ind est. Three legged cross, , i live in poole but i wouldnt take my Isuzu bighorn any where else, , (i think he is in to boats too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted November 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 Thanks both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted December 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Hi All Mechanic just brought the Paj back to me after I took it down to him to have a look at my gearbox, with a Death Certificate for the gearbox (lack of 1st gear). So with the other problems that the Paj has got, this means a Death Certificate for the whole vehicle So if anyone knows of a good 2.5 SWB, preferably not too far from Poole, Dorset, please let me know. Happy Christmas Everyone! C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Sorry to hear that Charlie. As if this time of year isn't expensive enough ! Does any of your family / friends need your old one to chop in under the scrappage scheme ? Hope it get's sorted soon. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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