Manic Moore Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Paul Jennings and I tried out the magnet and feel that we did draw fish to our swim, only dogs and pout (and a nice bonus wrasse) I made up a dropper from a bird feeder and with a litle help from Adam fitted a lead base of about 1.5lb. It seemed to work ok but seemed a little flimsy when forcing in the semi frozen gunk. Lesson: Don't drop it down on braid, especially when the boat starts to swing in the wind and gets tangled with the lines Doh. I think I will have a look at the pipe option. Freeze it in a pipe with plenty of holes, wrap with cling film (thats the bait not me!) and freeze. Make an outer sleeve with holes that the frozen pipe fits into, lead bottom and just drop the frozen tube into the outer sleeve and over the side (with thicker cord) I'll let you know how it goes Groundbaiterless Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 When I did ground bait for bream last year, I minced up some prawn, some squids, some intrails of cuttlefish, some blood from the beef we get and any old meaty kitchen scrape I found in the kitchen, add some rice and pour it into 2 4litre milk containers and freeze them. On the Ledge, I used a 4mm nylon and tied it to the milk bottle (with several 10p szie hole cut into the side) with a 5 lb weigh and sunk it directly under the boat. It took about an hour for it to melt away. Then we put down the second bottle, and this one got tangled with some of the line when the tide turned. We did well with the first bottle and not so well with the second one. This year I think I might try using flour to bond the mixture together before freezing it, only problem is squeezing the doul into the bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Have you heard of the berley bomb?www. berleybomb.com available from MJL imports email berleybomb@btconnect.com (Isle of Wight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 It may be a daft question but what is wrong with the string bag you get with washing tablets. We seem to have hundreds of them and they have loads of holes in them to spread the sent. I accept thay are a little on the small size but all you need to do is send a line down with a nice heavy weight, clip on a fresh bag every so often to keep up the sent trail as the boat moves around. Am I missing something here? Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Nice try but do you think the crabs would rip them to shreds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Nice try but do you think the crabs would rip them to shreds? Not if you put a stopper on the line before it reaches the bottom. This can easily be set up before sending the line down. As the tide drops just pull in a little line or when the tide floods let out a little more line. At the end of the day these bags are free and I at least have hundreds of them. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 I think its a great idea Dave - if you have 'hunderds' Il l have a few if you can spare them? Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Hi Dave Can you spare a few of those bags? I would like to try them out by filling them and then freezing them inside a plastic bag for handling purposes. the fine mesh may slow the wash out down,and just add another when the trail starts to fade away, In My experiance the problem with using bags deep in the water in summer is tope tear the bags to bits, I used to use a protector of chicken wire but am considering using a length of plastic downpipe. I need some stoppers for the ends, I wonder if the Pringle tube ones will fit? If not has anyone any cunning ideas of where to get stoppers from for say 2 1/2"or 3" pipe Easy to get for 4" pipe but I think that size will catch the tide to much Cheers charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swainiac Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dave, I have been using these small bags for a few years now, I mash up cat food, a couple of tins of pilchards in oil, a couple of small cheapo tins of herrings in oil, bulk out with either bran or bread crumb, add some boiled rice, then squash it into ice cube trays to feeze. Once frozen, I pop out the cubes, and three or four fit nicely into the string bag. One draw back that I have encountered, is that the bag has a tendancy to twist in the trace, so I clip it to the lead, on a normal tube rig type boom. However........I'm still crap!!!! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamouse Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Just to add to the list of methods....... I freeze my mix in plastic moulds with a handful of gravel and a loop of garden wire. The frozen blocks get wrapped in clingfilm and shipped in polystyrene chiller boxes. At sea, unwrap the cling film and clip the loop to the boom on the same snap link as the lead. I do a small (shallow) and large (deepwater) block. Give it a few minutes to soften, strike hard and it will drop away. Or work it back downtide with the lead and it'll drop away when you hit a fish. This works really well for the bream if you keep dropping down a block when the bites slow down. The groundbait is right over the hookbait, there's no awkward swimfeeder or dropper to load and if the boat swings you don't find yourself off the hotspot for long. You do need to get the mix right though, if it won't drop away it ruins the 'feel' of the fishing. Blocks stay frozen all day, so I just take an excess and drop the unused ones back in the freezer. If anyone wants to play, we throw the moulds away at work as they're just packaging. I can send some down with Codfather at the end of May. Steve p.s Adam, thanks, cheque went in this morning's post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob F Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Steve, I'd be interested in trying the moulds. Sounds like a good method. I'll pinch some off Coddy if he brings them along. cheers BF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Steve, I'd be interested in trying the moulds. Sounds like a good method. I'll pinch some off Coddy if he brings them along. cheers BF Hi Bob I don't have "HUNDREDS" but I do have quite a few. Bit like my "BIG" fish I don't catch! Will bring some along to the next meeting Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamouse Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 I'd be interested in trying the moulds. Sounds like a good method. I'll pinch some off Coddy if he brings them along. Hi Bob I don't have "HUNDREDS" but I do have quite a few. ...Will bring some along to the next meeting Dave, are you confusing my plastic moulds with your washing powder bags, by any chance? Either way, I'll chuck you some moulds for Bob at the end of the month. Want any cooler boxes as well? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Charlie. If as you say,Tope will attack and destroy these bait filled bags in summer,perhaps it would pay Andy and I to "spike" one of these with a few hooks [trebles even] and then at least we might catch SOMETHING this season.....jack..P.S. to our more technical and conservation minded readers...NO I am not serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Jack, Glad you aren't serious about catching anything this season - had me worried there for a mo.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Duncan,We have got to the stage when we have adopted the premis "why spoil an already perfect record ?"...jack P.S. Andy cant fish this weekend,Saves me worrying "where are we going to store the fish". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Hi Steve No I was talking about the washing bags, however if you have any spare moulds I too would like to give them a try. I still have some of your cool styrene box's from last year. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hi All This is one of the busy subjects this season and I love reading all the differant ideas. Jack I have been looking at boats like yours on the net, and would love a trip sometime to see what they are like afloat, Of course the shadow would want to come to [sam} , especially if tackle and bait are to be taken. Perhaps we can try and get together and get your boats fish repellant to switch off. bring on the tope Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 yeah i would love to come pick me pick me sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Hi Returning to Bait Droppers subject, I had need to call into Ikea at Bristol today and saw the perfect dropper. It is a cutlery holder made in stainless steel with loads of holes in it. At Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 You should have picked up a few, to sell on. I would get a couple if Ikea was nearer Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 You might yet do. There's rumours Ikea is looking into the possibility of a store in the south west. Blandford is one site they are considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob F Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Good old Blanford!!! It'll be a bit trendy for Blandford, though. We like the rustic appearance. BF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 You should have picked up a few, to sell on. I would get a couple if Ikea was nearer Charlie I travel around the UK all the time so I will get some and hold a stock for club members. I will advise when they are available Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Dave I'll have one when you get them Cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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