Adam F Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Its great fun innit!!! Most of us went through a very similar process, asking as many opinions as possible to satisfy the niggling doubts in your mind! Go with what YOU think is best. The explorer is a great boat, the predator looks good also, but is a good price. Make a list of what you really want from a boat and see how they all compare. .....(playing devils advocate!)....how about a Raider 16' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Duncan Looked at trailer today it is not braked so would only be good for craft up to 750 kilos loaded. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1plex Posted September 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Paul, if you would get details i'd appreciate it, whichever boat I end up with will be 16'ish, that much I am sure of. Martin..the weight of the Predator for instance, if you check the Seahog site, is 400 kilos approx, what extra weight you need to take into account apart from engine,fuel,general electrics,battery etc i'm not overly sure of, but I would take an uneducated guess at 200-300 kilos??,(engine being 75). I can't think of how Adam, for example, gets up to 1200kilos??............and while on that subject ,..thanks mate..rub it in why don't you! Raider indeed, ..........................mind you,....... they do look nice Duncan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Duncan I forgot to take my camera to work today and could only sneek a little time of work so didn't get to take any picys but will go to the store on Sunday and snap a few and get details from the VIN type plate for you to look at. Regarding wieght you have to include anything that is carried on the trailer, I'm not sure if you have to include the weight of the trailer as well (Rich can you clarify) But A standard Mariner 50hp 4 stroke engine weighs in at 224lb (102 kilos) 1 gallon (4.55 litres) of fuel is approximately 10lb (4.54kilos) Batteries 1 or 2? Water weights Electrics Anchor, warp and chain plus spare And the list goes on and soon mounts up. You can of course carry a lot of this equipment in you tow vehicle whilst travelling which would help to keep the weight on the trailer down. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Trailer Law - V useful site Martin / Duncan , The 750 KG weight is a gross weight so presumably includes the trailer. Just as important is the rating of the car when towing an unbraked trailer. For example a Honda-HRV is only rated up to 500 KG and the weight also cannot exceed half the vehicles kerb weight ( ie. To tow the full 750 KG you need a car with a kerb weight of at least 1500 KG ). That said, my Orkney 520 is on an unbraked trailer and I have no problems towing this with the Mondeo ( you do notice it is there when stopping quickly mind ! ). Speed limits are also of interest. ie. Single lane carriageway the limit towing a trailer is 50 MPH - This includes large stretches of the A31 Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domino Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 The 750kg limit for an un-braked trailer is Gross Weight ie. it does include the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 The 750kg limit for an un-braked trailer is Gross Weight ie. it does include the trailer. I believe it is all up towed weight so the answer is yes it would include the trailer and outboard. But you are allowed to make deductions for water and fuel carried as they are consumables. Crazy really, if one was just on the limit the zealous cop could 'do you' if your tacle box was in the boat but not if it were in the back of the car. Mad mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 A battery is pretty heavy, I would say about 10kg+ each. Some items you can store in the car and they won't count towards the boat's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 I think you will find that putting gear in the Car does not make any differance its the gross weight of the whole rig that effects braking. so loading the heavy bits from the boat to the car does not help to keep you legal/insured. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 Type 01: unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less. So it will make a difference but you would have to be border line to bother Type 02: trailers on overrun brakes - max. 3500kg gross trailer weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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