TomBettle Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 ps I am currently on the wagon so will unfortunately have to miss out on your little concoction (or come off the wagon I suppose..............) I don't know about on the wagon, but don't advise drinking these babies "on the boat". A couple the night before is good for a giggle though.... Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 lots of things are 'good for a giggle'................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 ....sorry to be a pain but back to the topic for a moment...in the excellent drawings by Bob F, I noticed that the trip was on a one piece Bruce anchor. Would you do the same thing on a hinged 2 piece CQR type anchor where the tripping eye is on the wobbly plough bit? Regards, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Bl@@dy Mudhopper!!!!! Grrrrr! Not happy with certain members of this forum for this one. I have a feeling that this will keep rearing it's head for a long time to come! Does he mean me? Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Thanks for your imput lad's. But it is the only way we trip the anchor up here. But it was the way I was tought by the lad's . And that is by men that have been doing this for year's. So next time I am out I will give the bow end a go and see how I get on. As when I come down I don't want to tred on your safety officer's toe's. But how did the subject get round to drinking ???it must be a verry sore point down there Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 ....sorry to be a pain but back to the topic for a moment...in the excellent drawings by Bob F, I noticed that the trip was on a one piece Bruce anchor. Would you do the same thing on a hinged 2 piece CQR type anchor where the tripping eye is on the wobbly plough bit? Regards, Harry The trip should be fitted as far down the shaft of the anchor as possible and usually just "behind" the flukes. You need to be able to pull the anchor out backwards. If the trip is set infront of the flukes it won't work so efficiently. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Harry - no. You have to rig a seperate trip line on those or go without. Reg - I believe that this is a product of fishing small boats in an area with significant ledges that can have very quick tidal flows and nasty overfalls - all appearing in a moment. 98% of the time I would tie a stuck anchor to the stern on Phaeton to rip it out without a second thought - well maybe a thought as to whether it's actually going to come out! The other 2% I have been know to wait out a whole tide until slack water before getting involved in trying to recover the damm thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Duncan, thanks for the advice. If I have a separate trip line to a small float above the anchor, can I still use an Alderney ring with a big float too? I assume the potential danger would then be a stuck anchor and no means of tripping it with the power of the boat engine. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ok Duncan all what you said has been taken in. like I said I will try working the bow end and see how I get on. Reg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Harry, Alderney ring is a recovery method rather than a trip although many use it as trip and rip! Seperate trip line wont interfere with the operation of the AR recovery but in general I have to say they are a pain in any tide or depth of water. I would seriously consider switching to a one piece anchor for areas you might get snaggeed - unfortunately that includes gettign pot lines as well as rocky areas so I would just change anyway! Bruce copy/M/claw is only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Harry I used to use a cqr and used to trip it from the bottom where I believe there is an attachment point. The thing to remember is to put an additional cable tie on the rope side of the pivot point on to keep the warp pulling in a straight line. If you dont do this your anchor will trip in large tides when you dont want it to. The thing to do is when you are down here fishing in company ask to see how your buddy does it. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Duncan, I could be incorrect here, but I am 99% sure that Charlie uses ( or should I say used to use ) a CQR anchor ( ie. one with a swivelly bit on it ) and had it tripped. I am sure he will comment if this is the case ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I understand that you can - but if you do you cannot avoid some load going onto the connection at the end of the shank.......and before you know it you are using a shackle rather than a cable tie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Duncan Can you give me the address of the place where they sell the Bruce claw/m claw copy's I would be much obliged as I can come down ready prepared. Thanks Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 reg - I was quoting teh prices I have seen them in Cobbs Quay chandlers, poole. I would suggest any chandler local to you would be a similar price. Mail order will work out more expensive 'cos of postage of that weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 ok Duncan. Thanks Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy fred Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 i have mentiond to martin about membership cards so if the club supply cards to members then cobbs chanlery are willing to give 10 % discount to all members cant be bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Still be bloody expensive with 20% off in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy fred Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 dont be so negative at times it pay's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Duncan Can you give me the address of the place where they sell the Bruce claw/m claw copy's I would be much obliged as I can come down ready prepared. Thanks Reg One can buy them on ebay and even with the delivery charge they are cheaper than most chandlers. Mad Mike PS Try http://search.ebay.co.uk/bruce-anchor_W0QQ...Q3aTB2Q3aUKQ3a2 There are 29 at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 This topic has certainly given rise to a large amount of comment etc. As a complete newcomer I must say that the whole idea of getting an anchor stuck is quite worrying. Does it happen often and with a tripped anchor is recovery usually accomplished? I have a small boat (Orkney Strikeliner) and am not sure of being able to use too much grunt to motor the anchor out in a tricky situation. Any thoughts please. By the way I am hoping to be going out from Christchurch on saturday to drown a few worms. If I see any boat namesw that I recognise I' come and watch how it's done.....fishing that is. Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi Steve Anchors do become stuck occasionally but assuming your anchor is tripped correctly you shouldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Steve, make sure the cable tie is small enought to be snapped off with force, too large and it won't break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Thanks guys. I'll just hope to be snag free for the time being. I fully intend to be at the next meeting that I think is next Thursday, clutching my membership fee and joining form! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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