boyscott Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57440787 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve S Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 It's an issue the world has not yet woken up to and it's going to make many more incidents that have currently occured to make government stick their hands in the pockets to spend the big money to do something about it. Even if the UK had a system like eLoran in operation that's not going to help ships coming in from overseas until they get here and of course the ships need to have it installed. It's a worldwide problem, there are multiple bad actors. GPS is so brilliant and easy to use traditional navigational skills pale in comparison, I'm sure most boating people are very out of practice (including me) if indeed they ever were skilled at it. boyscott and Jim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fox Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 To answer the original question, yes, it would be a major issue, and the usa have the capability of turning off the public system, reserving it for their military. The Eu with Britain's help started building the rival Galileo system, but since Brexit, our involvement and access is no longer guaranteed, and the UK is currently looking to go it alone. From the perspective of us as small boat owners, we should all have the tools and skills to find a safe harbour without electronic aids. Even in fog, the combination of compass and paper chart, from a known or estimated position should be good enough to find Bournemouth Beach, for example, then follow the coastline into Poole. Kingfisher 126 and boyscott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Reason to have a traditional compass onboard! Gives backup if electronics fail. Even I have twin GPS receivers on JoJo, so yes, very reliant on it!R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffa Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Belt and braces on mine 2 chartplottters 2 fishfinders 2 vhfs 2 compasses Still bugger all fish😞 boyscott, Jim, sparky and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 14 hours ago, gaffa said: Belt and braces on mine 2 chartplottters 2 fishfinders 2 vhfs 2 compasses Still bugger all fish😞 do not forget your mobile phone and tablet Pete Both of mine now have navionics gaffa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fox Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 How many of the above need GPS to function properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 Belt and braces on mine 2 chartplottters 2 fishfinders 2 vhfs 2 compasses Still bugger all fishBlimey! Well, my 2 units are both combo, so I guess I have 2 of each!Fixed and handheld VHF, I think there is a compass in grab bag too. Phone and PLB beacon.I think the plb works on a different sat system for Comms, but it does require gps to send location, but I think.can be tracked once help is close.Just a note, prob one of the smallest boats in the club!R gaffa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 12" and 1 7" combos, 1 fixed Compass and 1 bearing compass, Radar,1 fixed vhf + 1 handheld, phone, tablet, paper charts That's total Madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Maverick said: 1 12" and 1 7" combos, 1 fixed Compass, Radar and 1 bearing compass, 1 fixed vhf + 1 handheld, phone, tablet, paper charts That's total Madness Forgot your radar Martin, you can follow land with that too in an emergency Maverick Martin and Jim 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Yep thanks for that Charlie so many toys and to little memory lol Now edited Brian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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