Tarlach. Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 In your experiences, what would you guys class as the BEST all rounder when it comes to a boat multiplier? It must be good at up and down tiding !! Go........!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 The one I use most for both of those is one of my ABU 7000,s has brake blocks so can cast even big weights uptide very capable medium size downtider too. at anchor or drifting as an all rounder has a proved pedigree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Thomas Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 With regards to reels you need to speak to Dave lynes, the reel wizard and a very good angler with a intimate knowledge of reels both from a spares and maintenance view point and usuage. It will probably be easier to tell you the reels to avoid and there are a few that disappoint. Finor reels have a good reputation for build quality, it is all about keeping that salt water out or the ability to drain out after a rinse off. Good luck. Wedger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 What's your budget? - there is sooo much out there. Good main stream. I use Daiwa Saltist for pretty much everything. I have 3 of the older ones in 30 size 6.4:1 and did have a fantastic twin speed, wide body lever drag (got knicked). Both exceptional reels, especially the twin speed 6.3 /3.1:1, for all situations from wrasseing to wrecking, Both these reels cast well. top end Accurate, fin nor avet etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 as dad says the abu 7000s are a great all round reel and if the budget stretches the Avets are brilliant reels. we use a combination of both normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Whatever reel you go for ( I have the Saltist collection 20HA, 30HA and the 40HA) They will only last if you take great care of them. I religiously clean mine after every use and have them serviced by Dave Lines annually, they are 5 years old now and are just as good as the day I bought them. Also, you get what you pay for. Expect to spend over £150.00. Greg Kingfisher 126 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansimpson63 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I am enjoying the Penn Fathom 15, 2 speed at the moment, it is useful to select low gear when foul hooking a ray and pulling it up like a kite. Shop around as with all reels, the same model can vary in prices by 30%. Another good reel for shore and most boat work (haven't tried it with big stuff) is the Penn 525 mag 2 which have really dropped in price over the last few years. I bough this for shore fishing and take it as my reserve reel for boat. Very happy up tiding with this. Fully agree with Greg, clean after use and get Dave to service annually and they last for years (until a new shiny one catches your eye being used by a mate or in the shop). Currently sat in the house wondering where the wind is that made us cancel todays trip out, must be coming this afternoon. iansimpson63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I have walked around Hengisbury this morning, i can assure you the wind was present! Highcliffe sailing club on Mudeford have a good anemometer with history: https://weatherfile.com/?loc_id=GBR00004 iansimpson63 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I have half an hour ago come across the holes bay relief road and nearly got blown off it. OP sorry for the thread drift now reels: I have an ABU 7000c Synchro which is about 25 years and is still good, so good in fact that it is my preferred reel for medium fishing including uptiding but alas these are no longer made. Other posters above have put up some good advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansimpson63 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Rob and Martin, thanks I feel better now that I know the wind is up. Reference reels, the Shimano TLD are another solid workhorse that are worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I have walked around Hengisbury this morning, i can assure you the wind was present! Highcliffe sailing club on Mudeford have a good anemometer with history: https://weatherfile.com/?loc_id=GBR00004 Thanks Rob I must say I had the same thoughts as Ian when I got up this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher 126 Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Sorry guys not to over write the thread, myself and Blake went out this morning and came in at 3.30 had a great day lots of rays, big Wrasse, Gurnard but no spotties. Swash was flat calm until 1 then a stiff breeze built through the afternoon but fishable, worst conditions was the last drift at stakes!! Interesting caught a couple with the same markings as last weekend, they must be getting used to being caught now. Avets used all day if that helps? niggle and iansimpson63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Thanks for all the replies. One thing I forgot to mention is that I need left hand wind !! Also those reels with level wind are not great for uptide casting as they restrict the line release. Anyone know of a left hand wind with lever clutch? I am struggled by the find one that does not cost the same as a house !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Thomas Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I use Lh winds, For £130 ish you can get a good all rounder with a penn fathom 25 good for all uses, will cast no problem, handle big fish and easy to service and maintain. The abu7000 does a LH wind but not as good and the swedish are not manufacturing anymore and quality is down the pan, I took two back with faults. Avet do LH winds and quality but more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I use Lh winds, For £130 ish you can get a good all rounder with a penn fathom 25 good for all uses, will cast no problem, handle big fish and easy to service and maintain. The abu7000 does a LH wind but not as good and the swedish are not manufacturing anymore and quality is down the pan, I took two back with faults. Avet do LH winds and quality but more expensive.Thanks Mal, I will look closer at the penn. The ones I saw just seemed a bit too strong, more for much bigger fish but I suppose if I do happen to be lucky enough to snare a monster !! Ahhh I see why I discounted them, the left hand does not have a lever drag!! Guess I will have to stick to a star drag system! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 The7000 I mentioned earlier does have a level wind but shore or boat I have never found it to be a problem as we are not tournement casting. I thought you were after a combination although I still use the 7000,s my preferred option are my Avet SX or MX LH lever drags a little limited but Avets fit the bill. mine arenot good casting reels but they do come with brakes for that purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 LOL.... I am after a combination , a combo of..: Left hand reel Level wind Lever drag Good casting abilities! It doesn't exist does it ? ☹️ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve S Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 If you can drop the requirement for level wind you will have a lot more choice. IMO level wind adds nothing to a reel, just make for more complication, extra bits for salt to get in and for the line to tangle in. With braid there is so much capacity in the spools even if you don't spread line much with your thumb like during a fight the build up in the centre will not be too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Not sure there is Neil. You may have to settle for 3 out of 4 from your list in which case I would go for the Avet MX LH with brakes, its narrow spool makes line control easier. Or think out of the box and go for a tough large fixed spool I use Fin Nor Offshore and Cobot large spinning reels on Holiday, They have casting ability Line lay LH or RH handle positions and a drag that is far more powerful than any of my multipliers, If they can tame tropical fish there isn't much in the UK that could bother them. Kingfisher 126 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Not sure there is Neil. You may have to settle for 3 out of 4 from your list in which case I would go for the Avet MX LH with brakes, its narrow spool makes line control easier. Or think out of the box and go for a tough large fixed spool I use Fin Nor Offshore and Cobot large spinning reels on Holiday, They have casting ability Line lay LH or RH handle positions and a drag that is far more powerful than any of my multipliers, If they can tame tropical fish there isn't much in the UK that could bother them. I've ended up going for a Penn fathom 20 LH LW.I own two large 10'000 size shimano ci4 ultegra FS reels which are great for beach casting, if I don't get on uptiding with the Penn then I shall probably just use it for down tide fishing and move one of the shimano's onto the boat to take its place ! Thanks for all the recommendations and advice. Maybe one day somebody will make my dream reel without the need for a compromise somewhere (just like boats really, no such thing as the perfect boat)! Neil Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk great white and Mal Thomas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Having filled my new Penn fathom with line I gave it a go last weekend and it seemed to cast just fine (apart from the birds nest when the line slipped from below my thumb mid cast)! So, taking the slip into account, if I have wet digits what can I use to grip the line whilst casting? Or is it just a case of whip yer hands before you cast ? With FS reels I use a leather finger pouch, could this be utilised effectively if transferred to the thumb ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Thomas Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 The spool tensioner on the side will stop most over runs, I assume you mean a 30yrd lob rather a full on cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 The spool tensioner on the side will stop most over runs, I assume you mean a 30yrd lob rather a full on cast.30yds...... I consider that quite good , but yes not a full pendulum from the deck !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman1055 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Try red rocket fuel on the bearings and a piece of innertube to hold the spool like the beach casters. I am using this setup with my sons uptidet now arthritis has set in Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlach. Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Thanks tony Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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